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Re: Romance vs. Love Story

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:25 pm
by WarpGirl
Perhaps it would be better to focus on what was done, and not what could have been changed. After all, the genie is out of the bottle.

Re: Romance vs. Love Story

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:48 pm
by Cogito
Silverbullet wrote:
Writers couldn't even handle that.



I think that's because they didn't want to. I don't think there was any grand plan except to have the crew do enough to justify what happened in each episode and show a little skin from time to time. So Trip and T'Pol had a nice little scene with the peaches but not because the writers wanted to imply that they had been seeing each other on a regular basis, but just to explain why Trip knew where to find some of her DNA. And so on for just about every interaction between them - no thought beyond what needed to happen in that episode. And if the next episode needed them to schiz into a completely different personality to justify a plot point - well, that's fine.

I suspect most people watched it to see the tits and the bat'leths and the fast ships going woosh, and couldn't care less whether the characters developed in any meaningful way. Of course we know better, but I suspect there weren't enough of us to be worth considering.

Re: Romance vs. Love Story

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:54 pm
by WarpGirl
Someone over at HoT wrote this great thing about two men who were buddies, one was a writer for a TV show. The ratings started out great, then went into a bloody free-fall, and he'd tell his friend all his grad plans to fix it. And the friend had a running inner dialogue about how wrong the writer was. Of course it culminates into the birth of *the_abomination*. It was hysterical! I wish I could remember who wrote it.

Anyway I've gotta do some writing. Later I'll come back and type out more of T'Pol's issues and how they related to TnT's onscreen mess.

Re: Romance vs. Love Story

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:57 pm
by Cogito
I remember it well, and sadly I suspect it wasn't far from the truth.

There doesn't seem to be much happening in this episode. Say, why don't the two of you fall over and then you shove those in his face? That'll get the ratings up.

Re: Romance vs. Love Story

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:59 pm
by WarpGirl
Yeah when I saw that, I thought "Jeeze these people don't have a high opinion of men or women do they! GR would be turning in his grave."

Re: Romance vs. Love Story

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:42 pm
by Distracted
WarpGirl wrote:Someone over at HoT wrote this great thing about two men who were buddies, one was a writer for a TV show. The ratings started out great, then went into a bloody free-fall, and he'd tell his friend all his grad plans to fix it. And the friend had a running inner dialogue about how wrong the writer was. Of course it culminates into the birth of *the_abomination*. It was hysterical! I wish I could remember who wrote it.
T'was me. It was my Kurt Vonnegut imitation in "The Sincerest Form of Flattery Challenge". I called it "Brainstorm". Thanks for the egoboo. : )

Re: Romance vs. Love Story

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:45 pm
by WarpGirl
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: How did I not remember that!!!!!!!!!

Re: Romance vs. Love Story

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:05 pm
by Distracted
I posted it in 2006, sweetie. You're entitled to periodically purge your brain of unnecessary trivia. I know I do it regularly. 8)

Re: Romance vs. Love Story

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:06 pm
by WarpGirl
But it was on my list of faves Dis! :hug:

Re: Romance vs. Love Story

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:13 pm
by enterprikayak
:starfleet:
Dis, as a serious matter of hilarity protocol you are now required to submit above referenced story for immediate posting on this site. I don't care if it has an anti-beeb slant. People who love the beebs don't have to read it. These are your orders. :marine:

ek out.
:starfleet:

(random: should we start a comedy section on the main page? It could be called Tzlu'pd Kha'wal which is Vulcan for "amusing joke". lol)

Re: Romance vs. Love Story

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:16 pm
by WarpGirl
Oh please don't make me beg it'd get embarrassing!

Re: Romance vs. Love Story

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:23 pm
by Distracted
Actually, I put all of my Sincerest Form of Flattery Stories together as one story called "Guessing Game" at FF.net. It has 13 chapters. You guys want all of them? I can send them to you for posting here. They used to be linked through the archive but I guess when we lost our link to Triptpolers we lost them. They're not all comedy, though, so I guess you couldn't post the whole group of them in your new section, EK.

Re: Romance vs. Love Story

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:31 pm
by enterprikayak
send em!!!! tell me which section you want everything in. lol

Re: Romance vs. Love Story

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:35 pm
by Silverbullet
Yes, dis in the interst of hysterical er.... historical interest. Pls put it up on the main page.

I would love to read it even if it does show the beebs in thier best light.

BTW, I still belive we have to consider what the writrs did to the character of T'Pol in order to understand her. Fandom (fic writers especially) all have thier own concept of T'Pol. I believe some hate her. I for one love the character and want to protect her image.

SB

Re: Romance vs. Love Story

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:39 pm
by Cogito
Distracted wrote:I posted it in 2006, sweetie. You're entitled to periodically purge your brain of unnecessary trivia. I know I do it regularly. 8)


Roughly every forty minutes or so for me. I'm sure I used to be able to remember stuff.