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by pdsldl
Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:35 pm
Forum: Trip and T'Pol Discussion
Topic: Arranged marriages and Vulcan arranged marriages
Replies: 281
Views: 19969

Re: Arranged marriages and Vulcan arranged marriages

WG go back and watch Amok time. T'Pring clearly states that according to Vulcan law she can only divorce Spock by calling the fight. If she had simply not shown up she and Spock would have still been betrothed (The ceremony at seven is more than a betrothal and less than a marriage) and she would no...
by pdsldl
Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:36 pm
Forum: Trip and T'Pol Discussion
Topic: TnT and public contact
Replies: 58
Views: 9792

Re: TnT and public contact

Actually, in the series bound is the only time when she gave any indication of emotion towards Trip that ws not anger and jealousy. Okay, she helped him with his grief over his sister in the Forgotten but that was not an emotion directed at him other than a friend helping a friend in need, She dist...
by pdsldl
Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:00 pm
Forum: Trip and T'Pol Discussion
Topic: TnT and public contact
Replies: 58
Views: 9792

Re: TnT and public contact

We definitely know Vulcans have intense emotions. Tolaris and his anger, T'Pol losing it w/Archer, smashing her padd (Her control was stripped away by TD but the emotions must have always been there but suppressed) so outburst wouldn't be unexpected as she got closer to Trip and let her emotional at...
by pdsldl
Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:25 pm
Forum: Trip and T'Pol Discussion
Topic: TnT and public contact
Replies: 58
Views: 9792

Re: TnT and public contact

I can imagine that fire burned a lot hotter than she was ready to accept and she stepped way back before she got swallowed up in the flames. She did leave him with hope though when she didn't say anything to his wanting to continue with NP. Had she been truly rejecting him she would have quickly dou...
by pdsldl
Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:52 pm
Forum: Trip and T'Pol Discussion
Topic: TnT and public contact
Replies: 58
Views: 9792

Re: TnT and public contact

Spock played an instrument. T'Pol told Trip Vulcans appreciated beauty. They appreciate things just not the same outwardly way we do. They have emotions and I don't think T'Pol would have freaked out the morning after if she hadn't felt some intense emotions/sensations she was unprepared for. Her se...
by pdsldl
Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:32 pm
Forum: Trip and T'Pol Discussion
Topic: TnT and public contact
Replies: 58
Views: 9792

Re: TnT and public contact

Asso, I didn't think you were upset or being displeased. Why would I? And yes most of us have very definite beliefs that our own lives have taught us and those heart and soul perceptions should be our deepest held beliefs and shouldn't be changeable with the way the wind is currently blowing but the...
by pdsldl
Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:07 pm
Forum: Trip and T'Pol Discussion
Topic: TnT and public contact
Replies: 58
Views: 9792

Re: TnT and public contact

With discussions like this sometimes it has to be good enough that others will listen and debate the point with you without shutting you down or insulting anyone's beliefs or intelligence. Who knows someday put what you've said with something someone said and who knows.... That T'Pol kissed Trip in ...
by pdsldl
Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:51 pm
Forum: Trip and T'Pol Discussion
Topic: TnT and public contact
Replies: 58
Views: 9792

Re: TnT and public contact

Perhaps. Humans mellow with age and to some degree care less what others think. But all the Vulcans we saw who were older were crotchety -- some to the point of being almost seeming angry. Some small concessions yes, full on contact such as dancing no. I just don't see her giving up so deeply held a...
by pdsldl
Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:05 pm
Forum: Trip and T'Pol Discussion
Topic: TnT and public contact
Replies: 58
Views: 9792

Re: TnT and public contact

PDA to me is in view of the actual people not just in a public area that in only occupied by TnT. The kiss and his taking her hand were done when no one else was around. And if someone had shown up they both would have broken contact immediately. And ASSO it took T'Pol years to tell Trip her age bec...
by pdsldl
Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:01 pm
Forum: Trip and T'Pol Discussion
Topic: TnT and public contact
Replies: 58
Views: 9792

Re: TnT and public contact

That may be true ASSO but they do not give up that which makes them who they are. Their core beliefs. If they do to me that not a healthy relationship. They can change/compromise but it would still be mostly with their private behavior with one another. I really can't see T'Pol or any Vulcan being w...
by pdsldl
Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:28 pm
Forum: Trip and T'Pol Discussion
Topic: TnT and public contact
Replies: 58
Views: 9792

Re: TnT and public contact

Thanks and I agree. There are always situations where a couple cannot or at least shouldn't hold hands etc... but when a legitimate excuse comes up they might linger a little longer than called for. With TnT I buy them holding hands as a more human and comfortable way to have contact between mates. ...
by pdsldl
Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:59 pm
Forum: Trip and T'Pol Discussion
Topic: TnT and public contact
Replies: 58
Views: 9792

Re: TnT and public contact

CW first off I live your avatar. And second can you give me an example of what you mean by action with no emotional connection, especially where her relationship to Trip is concerned?
by pdsldl
Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:52 pm
Forum: Trip and T'Pol Discussion
Topic: Arranged marriages and Vulcan arranged marriages
Replies: 281
Views: 19969

Re: Arranged marriages and Vulcan arranged marriages

I'm not sure how much validity there may have been to T'Les' observations etc... of her daughter. T'Les was on a mission to get her married off so if she was anything like my mom is (punching my buttons and saying or doing things to elicit the response she wants) when she wants me to do something I ...
by pdsldl
Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:33 pm
Forum: Trip and T'Pol Discussion
Topic: TnT and public contact
Replies: 58
Views: 9792

Re: TnT and public contact

Push characters outside their boundaries but not before you've set it up so it is plausible and not totally out of left field. I still want to feel like I recognize who they are.
by pdsldl
Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:09 pm
Forum: Trip and T'Pol Discussion
Topic: Arranged marriages and Vulcan arranged marriages
Replies: 281
Views: 19969

Re: Arranged marriages and Vulcan arranged marriages

As far as T'Les knowing her better I'm not sure how true that would be as it seems T'Pol had been away from Vulcan (on the Seleya, as an operative for the Security Ministry or whatever they were called, as an aide to Soval,and then on Enterprise that just what we know about). They didn't seem all th...

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