Why and how

[Rigil Kent]

Uh, Rigil, do you feel it is a futile endeavor to apply logic to Trek? Sigh, I fear it might be so.

Alas, yes. Totally futile ... though I do continue to try. Call it an instinct toward order.

[evcake]

T'Pol to Trip: “Ambassador Soval tells me that Humans are capable of dealing with Vulcan emotions. He is in a position to know.”
That's in Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth, Jan. 2007

In regards to Sarek in TNG, who's to say that Human emotions mightn't have far-reaching effects if we had telepathic powers? In fact, you can see one human's emotions impact the emotions of those around him, even without telepathy.

Spock: Logic is a tweeting bird chirping in a meadow. Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers that smell bad. (I can't help it - this is one of my all-time favorites)

[Rigil Kent]

With respect, a fanfic simply doesn't have the same weight as an actual episode. Having read the MA entry about Sarek, I have to say that it clearly intimates to me that Vulcan emotions are much, much more intense than normal human emotion.

I will admit that my ... disappointment with that particular fic might color my opinion somewhat, but discarding canon in something as so central to the Vulcan identity simply doesn't work for me.

[evcake]

Did you like Daybreak?

[Rigil Kent]

Parts of it. I had severe problems buying into the Archer/T'Pol angle from the previous fics (mostly because of my well documented dislike and disdain for that entire "ship"), as well as the Cole/Soval thing (which, frankly, only makes sense to me in that AU). The female pon farr nonsense was also hard to stomach.

[CX]

There was a Star Trek magazine article a couple of years back that said Vulcan emotions were much stronger than Human emotions. I will have to dig that out and post a quote from it.

There is an episode of TNG and an episode of VOY that say so, so it's canon.

[evcake]

I missed the female ponn farr debate. Is it archived somewhere?

[pookha]

With respect, a fanfic simply doesn't have the same weight as an actual episode. Having read the MA entry about Sarek, I have to say that it clearly intimates to me that Vulcan emotions are much, much more intense than normal human emotion.

I will admit that my ... disappointment with that particular fic might color my opinion somewhat, but discarding canon in something as so central to the Vulcan identity simply doesn't work for me.

vulcan emotions are stronger yes, but what was happening to sarek was even stronger due to the effects of the illness.

and vulcans are capable of broadcasting..
the crew of the intrepid did enmass when they died.
spock was able to do a jedi mind trick of tricking a guard to come into a room in one episode.
now it was the only time we saw it. perhaps it is too dangerous for a vulcan to do that often.

we also know vulcans even before pon farr seem to mature.
spock evidently was in love with leila in the past.

it could be that they are sexually mature but the full sprung drive dosnt hit until later.

[Elessar]

Can anyone think of a reason a Vulcan community might raise a human child? And how they might do it?

I'm reminded of "Stranger in a Strange Land"

[TSara]

I actually remember reading a fic about a Vulcan family raise a human child....or maybe it was a vulcan/human bonding?

Can't quite remember....it's been awhile since I read it.

I do however remember the charactors name.....it was Helen.

[evcake]

Can anyone think of a reason a Vulcan community might raise a human child? And how they might do it?

I'm reminded of "Stranger in a Strange Land"

Har-de-har-har. I'm not planning on Heinleinizing my baby.

T'Sara: going looking for the story you mentioned. Every little bit helps.

My favorite quote from Stranger In A Strange Land: “I am God. Thou art God. And any jerk I remove is God, too.”

[TSara]

http://members.aol.com/MacedonPg/wb.txt

That is it.

Warning though....parts of it are NC-17.

[evcake]

Thanks. Oh, this is eery - I wanted her to become an archaeologist.

[TSara]

Welcome Hon!

Here is the website I found it on.

http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/sp ... ulcan.html

There are other stories on there as well.

[evcake]

Wow. Linda, have you seen this? I mean, with your interest in Vulcans and all...