I've defeated Windows 7...

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Re: I've defeated Windows 7...

Postby Elessar » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:07 am

Dusalis Drake wrote:I must say that you are quite brave to be using Windows 7, and I wish you the best of luck when the next bug comes up. It'll be at least 12 months from the non-beta release date before I try it. And I still have XP so that won't be a fun change. Formatting is a pain.


Oh dude, try it on a RAID array :lol: . Well, I take that back, that's one of the glorious new features of Win7 for those of us who use RAID or, I guess if anyone still is, SCSI. You used to have to use a floppy drive and disk to load your 3rd party RAID drivers during windows install and it didn't always work and usually there was a regular IDE bus driver AND a raid driver and WHICH ONE do I install first< AHHH!!! *hair on fire generally*

This is of course completely precluding the existence of Vista since, with how much negativity I heard about it initially, I just pretended it didn't exist and told myself to wait for the next OS, which I soon came to be called Vista. I think they got tired of all the code names that Vista ran through like Longhorn :lol:. "Windows 7, good, simple." I bet there's some subliminal messaging in the simplicity of it that suggests it's simple and easy to use. For the most part it is.

I haven't had any bugs yet either... Dark was saying something about, and I could be misquoting, if you are running Win7 x64 (which I am), and if you have a 32bit program stop responding and you try to kill it from task manager in Win7 it tends to lock up the system completely. I haven't had that happen, but doing a lot of developer things and using a lot of experimental programs, Dark runs into a lot more non-responsive programs than the average person.

I decided, basically, I was going to stay on XP until the last possible moment. I really updated to Windows 7 as a matter of necessity. Technologically, Windows XP just isn't built to use the new generation of hardware. It's 32bit which means it's limited in a lot of ways, namely to addressing about 3 GB of memory (recognizing 4, addressing and using 3), which is a limit that, for high end and gaming users, is completely insufficient. I went with 4 just to be a bit frugal b/c another G. Skill 4 GB kit is $80, but if it dropped to 60 or 50 I would probably grab it and jump to 8 GB.

My only concern with the direction the Microsoft operating system is going is that it's going further and further into a realm where the non-server operating systems are tailored for the computer-illiterate user who you don't want messing with and tweaking configuration settings and critical system files - which means a power user like myself and hardcore gamers, hobbycoders, modders, etc... can't access some of even the most basic configuration ends of Windows anymore. The death of the command prompt in Windows XP Professional was a TRAVESTY, and now my Run is gone! :doubt:

I think they should add like a developer's module or even just a windows configuration module that doesn't come on a disc image but has to be added from the "Add Windows Components" menu of the Control Panel so that people like me can still access that stuff.
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Re: I've defeated Windows 7...

Postby WarpGirl » Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:15 am

I don't call it geek-speak, I call it Techie Geek-Speak. Huge difference. I can understand basic geek-speak, but programmers they speak in a language more complex that high-school algebra which I barely passed. The only people who really understand this stuff are techies. I tell my brother all of the time... English bro English. Saterday is his daughter's wake. :cry: Anyway congrads Elessar may your computer serve you well.
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Re: I've defeated Windows 7...

Postby dark_rain » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:29 pm

For run, use the Win+R shortcut or type the name into the search box on the start menu and press ctrl+enter

EDIT: Oh an I've just remembered that if you buy/have bought a Dell with Windows Vista from June 26th, you may be eligable for a free Win7 upgrade

https://win7.dell.com/Eligibility.aspx
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Re: I've defeated Windows 7...

Postby WarpGirl » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:34 pm

Gotta love a Dell. ;-)
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Re: I've defeated Windows 7...

Postby dark_rain » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:38 pm

Oh and there is such a beast as XP x64. I'm sniffing at it, but I'm not encouraged by the speed that DX10/11 are moving at. I will need those at some point, and MS don't seem to want to let XP have them.
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Re: I've defeated Windows 7...

Postby Elessar » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:55 pm

dark_rain wrote:Oh and there is such a beast as XP x64. I'm sniffing at it, but I'm not encouraged by the speed that DX10/11 are moving at. I will need those at some point, and MS don't seem to want to let XP have them.


I forgot to mention that. Yes there is, but any time I've ever talked to anyone who's used it or is pretty knowledgable, they say it's absolute garbage.
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Re: I've defeated Windows 7...

Postby Dusalis Drake » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:05 am

WarpGirl wrote:Gotta love a Dell. ;-)

Dell :thumbsdown:

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Re: I've defeated Windows 7...

Postby dark_rain » Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:26 am

Depends /which/ Dell you have. The business series and their support tend to be very good. I wouldn't be so sure about the home series and its support.
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Re: I've defeated Windows 7...

Postby Elessar » Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:40 pm

dark_rain wrote:Depends /which/ Dell you have. The business series and their support tend to be very good. I wouldn't be so sure about the home series and its support.


XPS machines are pretty beastly, but so is their price tag.
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Re: I've defeated Windows 7...

Postby Aquarius » Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:02 am

Dusalis Drake wrote: Dell :thumbsdown:


I quite have to agree. It's bad enough that all of their support has been outsourced.

Insult to injury: for an EXTRA $12.99 per month, you can speak to someone in support on American soil.

Sorry, I will NEVER buy a Dell.
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Re: I've defeated Windows 7...

Postby WarpGirl » Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:17 am

Meh to each his own. I've never had a problem with the actual machine. However programs, and routers yeah I've had problems. But since I've started using windows 7 no program problems at all. I am a happy lady.
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Re: I've defeated Windows 7...

Postby panyasan » Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:13 am

Dusalis Drake wrote:
WarpGirl wrote:Gotta love a Dell. ;-)

Dell :thumbsdown:

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Re: I've defeated Windows 7...

Postby Elessar » Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:49 am

Aquarius wrote:
Dusalis Drake wrote: Dell :thumbsdown:


I quite have to agree. It's bad enough that all of their support has been outsourced.

Insult to injury: for an EXTRA $12.99 per month, you can speak to someone in support on American soil.

Sorry, I will NEVER buy a Dell.


It can't be that ALL their support's been outsourced - I know a guy that works in either Tulsa or OKC that works for Dell Customer Tech Support.
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Re: I've defeated Windows 7...

Postby dark_rain » Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:01 am

Maybe it's something to do with USA support, as I've got corp support in the UK (as standard) which is UK based. I spoke to them yesterday about something.
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Re: I've defeated Windows 7...

Postby Aquarius » Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:48 am

Elessar wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Dusalis Drake wrote: Dell :thumbsdown:


I quite have to agree. It's bad enough that all of their support has been outsourced.

Insult to injury: for an EXTRA $12.99 per month, you can speak to someone in support on American soil.

Sorry, I will NEVER buy a Dell.


It can't be that ALL their support's been outsourced - I know a guy that works in either Tulsa or OKC that works for Dell Customer Tech Support.


He's probably one of the guys you have to pay extra to talk to.
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