What have we learned from the T'nT sites?

[blacknblue]

KTR, why not start your own magazine? Start off with donations and then, if it takes off, make it a subscription publication?

[Rigil Kent]

What have you LEARNED from this site? Specifically from the airing of stories and opinions?

That anything I say can and likely will be taken out of context, or held against me in the court of public opinion, so I should go out of my way to avoid getting involved in "controversial" discussions as I appear to have a minority view around here.

That, based on Quills' behind the camera insight into ENT, it's frankly amazing that I actually liked this show at all, especially with some of the abject stupidity that went on.

That further, based on his insights, there is absolutely no way in Hades that I would be able to make it in Hollywood.

And finally, that I spend waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much time online.

[Kevin Thomas Riley]

It's got more to do with the fact that it's a niche market and we're only 9 million people in Sweden. We hardly even translate science fiction stories into Swedish. Fans buy and read the English copies. But they do translate sci-fi novels into German, but there are over 80 million of them so...

There are only 5 million of us and we have a market. It's not a big one, but enough that some scifi books get translated every year and we have some Finnish scifi authors as well. Maybe it's because so many people don't like to read in English. There are few Finnish scifi magazines too that publish stories. Actually if I ever manage to gather enough courage I'm going to send some stories to a competition that one of those magazines has every August.

Then you're luckier than we are. But I think you're right about the "not liking to read in English" thing. Forgive me for saying this but whenever I'm in Finland I discover that you (general you) aren't as proficient in English as we are in Sweden.

Then I also think it has something to do with the publishing houses in Sweden. In the 70s and 80s sci-fi enthusiasts translated and published novels on their own, on small specialized publishing houses they set up themselves. That made the big houses lazy. They got used to the fact that others did the work. And when the enthusiasts ceased to be ethusiastic enough, they stopped publishing. By that time the big publishers had gotten used to ignoring science fiction and they still do. So the fans paradoxically did the genre a disservice here.

Fantasy on the other hand gets translated a lot into Swedish.

KTR, why not start your own magazine? Start off with donations and then, if it takes off, make it a subscription publication?

Waaaay to much (unpaid) work!

[Bookworm]

Here are some things I have learned.
I have gotten new views about many Enterprise things from the conversations, because I've seen most of the episodes only once and haven't noticed or have forgotten some things.

I have learned a lot about Americans and noticed that we have a lot of incommon although our culture is different and the country where I live very far away from there.

Then there are just so many little facts you learn from the conversations that it would take a lot of time to list all those. Like scifi not translated into Swedish and so on.

Then you're luckier than we are. But I think you're right about the "not liking to read in English" thing. Forgive me for saying this but whenever I'm in Finland I discover that you (general you) aren't as proficient in English as we are in Sweden.

Nothing to forgive it's just a fact. English is not that easy for us. Many people think Finnish is hard to learn because it's so different. Our language is Agglutinative wich means we form words by joining many parts together and there are other differences too. From our point of view our way is easy and other way is hard. Swedish and English have lot in common in the structure of the language and words too. In my oppinion the only reason we speak English as well as we speak is that we have to start learning it so young and we hear it from telly and computer games and so on.

[Shakabutt]

You know ,i think Americans will rule the world someday ,i really do ,in my country ,my language is slowly transforming into english ,god knows sometimes i think i speak english better that my mother language ,and i have to blame Americans and their Cartoon Network

[blacknblue]

You know ,i think Americans will rule the world someday ,i really do ,in my country ,my language is slowly transforming into english ,god knows sometimes i think i speak english better that my mother language ,and i have to blame Americans and their Cartoon Network

Why would we want to?

[Shakabutt]

Because then you will make us all into Americans and the whole world would be awesome ?

[CX]

Wow, that has to be the only time I've eve seen anything remotely like that statement, ever.

[CoffeeCat]

^^ I beg yer pardon?

[Shakabutt]

I'm just joking ,but i do like the american way of life ,how the americans live ,giant cities like New York ,great monuments ,i don't know,maybe i've watched to much TV .

[CX]

Well I mostly like our way of life, even if it could stand for some improvement, but there's more to this country than the cities and monuments.

[Rigil Kent]

Yeah. People like Lindsey Lohan and Paris Hilton and Britney Spears are celebrities in this country.

[Shakabutt]

Yes,there is Cartoon Network ,and Jolene Blalock ,two of the USA's most wonderfull things :d

[Rigil Kent]

And Heroes. And the NFL Channel. And me.

[Shakabutt]

Yeah. People like Lindsey Lohan and Paris Hilton and Britney Spears are celebrities in this country.

Paris Hilton is a pornstar in my country ,ask someone on the street about her and they will tell you were to download One Night in Paris