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My Chosen MOS: 0203 Ground Intel

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:14 pm
by Elessar
See, I don't get to pick an MOS (Military Occupational Specialty - my job basically) until week 13 of The Basic School (quite awhile from now). I also don't get my choice with absolute certainty... I have to prove through merit that I excel in the skills required for a Ground Intel Officer.

However, I need to have a good idea of what my number one goal is. I think have decided on Ground Intelligence because it is a mix of the "fun" and exciting and grueling training of an Infantry Officer, with roughly the same assignments for the first 12-18 months, but then it transitions into a batallion officer position. I don't know as I'd want to be a grunt officer the rest of my life, so it transitions into intelligence and that way I think I'd get to use my education and my head. I think that's something I'd enjoy doing if I decided to stay in the Marine Corps for awhile. For anybody interested, here is the MOS description:


0203 Military Occupational Specialty (MOS)

INTRODUCTION:
If you are attracted to the infantry occupational field and the intelligence field, the ground intelligence MOS may offer the best of both worlds. Created in 1994 to improve intelligence at the tactical level in the Marine Corps, this field provides intelligence officers with an opportunity to command at the onset of their careers.

WHAT IS THIS MOS LIKE?
Initially, the ground intelligence officer will serve as a scout sniper platoon commander in the infantry battalion. In this respect, this MOS is much like the infantry for the first 12 to 18 months. Upon successful completion of this first billet, you will probably serve as an intelligence officer on a battalion, regiment or division staff. If you particularly enjoyed commanding a scout sniper platoon, you may volunteer to command a reconnaissance platoon. If selected, following a rigorous screening process, you will command a reconnaissance platoon for approximately 24 months. You must be eligible for top secret clearance with access to special compartmentalized information (TS/SCI) based on a Single Scope Background Investigation (SSBI).

WHAT WILL I DO AFTER TBS BEFORE I GET MY FIRST TOUR?

Before leaving Quantico, you will attend IOC for ten weeks along with your infantry contemporaries. Upon graduation from IOC, the ground intelligence officers will attend the SSPC (Scout Sniper Platoon Commander Course) at the Scout Sniper Instructor School at Weapons Training Battalion for two weeks. Following SSPC, you will attend the six-week Ground Intelligence Officer Course (GIOC) at the Navy/Marine Corps Intelligence Training Center in Dam Neck, Virginia. Here you will learn the requisite skills to perform as an intelligence officer on a battalion, regiment or division staff.

WHAT WILL MY FIRST TOUR BE LIKE?

All ground intelligence officers will be assigned to one of the three divisions within the Marine Corps. Those assigned to First Marine Division and Second Marine Division may serve temporarily on the division intelligence officer’s staff until they can be permanently assigned to one of the infantry battalions as a scout sniper platoon commander. The officers assigned to Third Marine Division in Okinawa may serve on the division staff for a longer period of time. In some cases, these officers may be selected to serve as reconnaissance platoon commanders and may receive some of their requisite training prior to departing for Okinawa.

Commanding a scout sniper platoon is a physically and mentally challenging job. Scout sniper platoons consist of 8 two-man teams and a small headquarters section. The mission of these teams is to support combat operations by providing precision direct fire on selected targets, controlling supporting arms, and collecting and reporting information. You are responsible for training the teams and will work closely with the battalion intelligence officer and battalion operations officer in their employment.

Your deployment opportunities are dependent on the battalion to which you are assigned. Like the infantry officers in your IOC class, you can be assigned to a battalion conducting a six or seven month deployment to Okinawa as part of the Unit Deployment Program (UDP), or to a battalion conducting a Marine Expeditionary Unit (Special Operations Capable) (MEU(SOC)) deployment.

WHERE MIGHT I GO AFTER MY FIRST TOUR?

Upon augmentation and three or more years of intelligence experience, all Marine Corps intelligence officers from the four specialty intelligence MOSs (MOS 0203, 0204, 0206, and 0207) are redesignated as a MAGTF Intelligence Officer, MOS 0202. This MOS is granted upon completion of the MAGTF Intelligence Officer Course (MIOC) at NMITC in Dam Neck, Virginia. MIOC develops officers who can apply intelligence tactics, techniques, and procedures to support the commander across a multi-disciplined spectrum in a MAGTF and joint environment. After qualification for the 0202 MOS, the officer can be assigned to any level of the Marine Corps, external billets (mostly US Navy billets), joint intelligence tours, and national intelligence agencies. There are several opportunities to command intelligence organizations and other units within the Marine Corps. These opportunities range from command of Marine students in other service intelligence schools, through multiple command billets in the three intelligence battalions, to command of a SIGINT company or battalion.

CONCLUSION:

The 0203 MOS is a challenging profession. You will work with some of the most talented and dedicated Marines in the Corps. Regardless of your MOS assignment, you will find that this is the most rewarding aspect of the Marine Corps. Additionally, your 0203 experience will open up command possibilities in the future.

Re: My Chosen MOS: 0203 Ground Intel

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:26 pm
by Escriba
I hope you like it and everything turns out to be as you expected :)

Although I didn't understand half of it due the acronyms and somehow it looks a little dangerous.

Re: My Chosen MOS: 0203 Ground Intel

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:42 pm
by Elessar
Oh yeah, there are some that aren't defined aren't there...

IOC = Infantry Officer Course

MEU = Marine Expeditionary Unit

SOC = Special Operations-Capable

MAGTF = Marine Air-Ground Task Force

SIGINT = signal intelligence

Re: My Chosen MOS: 0203 Ground Intel

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:20 pm
by blacknblue
Good luck. Keep your head down.

Re: My Chosen MOS: 0203 Ground Intel

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:38 pm
by justTripn
:thumbsup:

Re: My Chosen MOS: 0203 Ground Intel

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:13 pm
by Alelou
Yes, good luck.

Re: My Chosen MOS: 0203 Ground Intel

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:44 am
by Navigator
scout sniper platoon


Dude,

You sure don't shrink from a challenge, do you?

Ladies and Gentlemen, he has pretty much chosen the Marines version of SEAL. Go Google "Carlos Hathcock" and read of his adventures in Viet Nam. It will give you a good idea.

Re: My Chosen MOS: 0203 Ground Intel

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:53 pm
by Elessar
Navigator wrote:
scout sniper platoon


Dude,

You sure don't shrink from a challenge, do you?

Ladies and Gentlemen, he has pretty much chosen the Marines version of SEAL. Go Google "Carlos Hathcock" and read of his adventures in Viet Nam. It will give you a good idea.


Well, the Marines version of SEALs is Recon, hehe. there are "ordinary" scout sniper platoons that aren't attached to Recon units.

HOWEVER! You can also use Ground Intel as a jumping off MOS to get command of a Recon platoon also! If I'm ever in the kinda shape to be competitive for that... hell YES I'll go after it :)

Re: My Chosen MOS: 0203 Ground Intel

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:51 pm
by TSara
SIGINT....I am well familiar with SIGINT.....especially since I used to work at Ft. Meade. ;)


It sounds like this job is the Army equivalent to scout or interrogator. *nods*

Get ready for that T/S SCI background check.....I hope you know a lot of people! lol In fact you can list me as a character reference if need be....let me know.....I've had to fill out that paperwork tons of times myself as well as be interviewed for other people. I am well aware of what goes on for that process.

You'll probably have to take a Polygraph as well at some point....especially if you end up at Ft. Meade.(Which if you don't I'll be surprised) So my advice is if you really want this job to tell the investigators EVERYTHING(included any and all past drug use). Even if you don't think it's a big deal. If you are up front and honest with them chances are you won't have an issue.

Re: My Chosen MOS: 0203 Ground Intel

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:35 pm
by Kevin Thomas Riley
Would running a TnT fanfic site count for or against him!? :lol:

Re: My Chosen MOS: 0203 Ground Intel

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:12 pm
by Alelou
Kevin Thomas Riley wrote:Would running a TnT fanfic site count for or against him!? :lol:


LOL!

Re: My Chosen MOS: 0203 Ground Intel

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:22 pm
by Elessar
TSara wrote:SIGINT....I am well familiar with SIGINT.....especially since I used to work at Ft. Meade. ;)


It sounds like this job is the Army equivalent to scout or interrogator. *nods*

Get ready for that T/S SCI background check.....I hope you know a lot of people! lol In fact you can list me as a character reference if need be....let me know.....I've had to fill out that paperwork tons of times myself as well as be interviewed for other people. I am well aware of what goes on for that process.

You'll probably have to take a Polygraph as well at some point....especially if you end up at Ft. Meade.(Which if you don't I'll be surprised) So my advice is if you really want this job to tell the investigators EVERYTHING(included any and all past drug use). Even if you don't think it's a big deal. If you are up front and honest with them chances are you won't have an issue.



Yeah I have a friend who, as a student in comp sci, got an internship with HP working on guidance systems for the Dept. of Naval Intelligence and had to take a polygraph. He had to take a second one when he tried to get into an internship w/ the CIA the following summer and failed it though :(

Re: My Chosen MOS: 0203 Ground Intel

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:41 am
by TSara
^ Both the CIA and NSA polys are TOUGH!

Believe me, I know all about that. When you are in the military it wont be as bad because they can't ask you certain questions because of Don't ask Don't tell and other policies.

So you could still work up at Ft. Meade and work at No Such Agency. ;)

Re: My Chosen MOS: 0203 Ground Intel

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:59 am
by CX
Feh, spooks...

Re: My Chosen MOS: 0203 Ground Intel

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:30 pm
by Elessar
TSara wrote:^ Both the CIA and NSA polys are TOUGH!

Believe me, I know all about that. When you are in the military it wont be as bad because they can't ask you certain questions because of Don't ask Don't tell and other policies.

So you could still work up at Ft. Meade and work at No Such Agency. ;)


If its got guns n bad guys I'm on it :lol: