Some people are such divas
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:10 am
So there's this Terrell guy. He's an actor/screenwriter/producer/director/whatever (aspiring on most counts). Technically I first met him at the Save Enterprise rally at Paramount in like 2005 but we didn't actually talk or anything just "hi" and he complimented me on the sign I drew like everyone else. And I stayed away from him anyway because he smoked all the time. So no real interaction there.
We "met" again during KvP on the late FanLib (RIP). I don't know if Distracted remembers him or had any interaction with him to know who I'm talking about. But anyway he's like a big mouth, likes to brag about what he was in, who he's met etc and he always kept asking everyone not only to check out his stuff, but also to rate it high and favorite it and subscribe to him. Actually he kept doing that even after KvP was over.
Anyway. And like I said he's also a screenwriter, and in his comments on other people's scripts I think he kinda came off as if he thinks he's the only one who knows how to write professional scripts around there, or at least SHOULD be the only one (VERY nitpicky about stuff that isn't even a big deal, or a deal at all, and in his comment on my submission it was like he was surprised that I could write in proper screenplay format, and he already knew I'm an actress, why wouldn't I, I read proper screenplays don't I
). I don't know maybe I'm just reading too much into stuff. 
Would be easier if y'all knew who and what I'm talking about
Oh and he recognized me from the Save Enterprise rally when he saw my picture. Well actually he recognized my sign. And then he actually wanted to date me.
Like he's like 50something (not that I'd date him anyway. Or anyone. But it was just kinda creepy )
And he also posted on FanLib some ENT screenplays he wrote. I skimmed through the beginning of one of them and it included a Mary-Sue guy named after him of course.
Um yeah anyway. He really liked SouthTrek. So like a few days ago he emails me and asks if I'm gonna make more episodes and if I need voice cast. So I told him I was working on more eps of SouthTrek and also SouthTrek: Enterprise but it's gonna take a while because I'm only one person (with tons of medical issues
) but he's welcome to do some voices when (if ) the time comes.
Then he also asked if he could help with the writing. So I was like sure why not, you can write episodes if you want or pitch ideas for episodes. Hell he probably knows TOS like way better than I do anyway. But since it's my show I laid the ground rules: there doesn't need to be continuity between episodes (like for example Scotty obviously not supposed to stay dead he's a regular character, like Kenny), Scotty is our Kenny/redshirt he dies in every episode, and the voice cast get to be extras sometimes. (That's because I already knew he likes writing himself into stuff. But it's a Trek/South Park parody not voice cast parody. The characters are supposed to be based on those shows. So like yeah I can add "extras" when there's some seats to fill in the school shuttlebus for example, but no "Substitute Teacher Mr. Terrell" or whatever ) But still character are at least supposed to be consistent with themselves, the first episode is like a "series bible" I guess. But I thought that was like way obvious
Well so here's what he said: (red text added by me)
While some of those parody names are hilarious, most of them just plain don't make sense and are obviously just random words thrown together because they rhyme or start with the same letter etc. Also those parody names (the clever ones anyway) are more like the kinda stuff that's suitable for Mad Magazine parody titles (I'm kinda assuming y'all at least looked inside a Mad Magazine and I won't have to explain it
). As for naming a film or especially a series that's based on Trek and South Park, I wouldn't throw some random parody title on it because the whole series or film would be expected to live up to it. Like for example I wouldn't name my TOS spoof say "SouthTrek: The O-Parking-Lot Scarys". Parking lots? Scary? What does that have to do with anything??
And besides it's already got a name... SouthTrek. And the ENT spoof is named SouthTrek: Enterprise. Sometimes simple works best IMO... tells it like it is and leaves the content for the actual plot rather than a confusing completely unrelated title.
Well JMO anyway. My show, my decision though.
Too late. I already DID cast him as Kenny because he's like the only main character who wears a redshirt, I wanted a main character because Kenny is also a main character. I didn't cast him because of the "name similarity" (huh?? ) but because of the redshirt. And if Kenny the main character can get killed every episode so can Scotty on SouthTrek. Because I said so.
Yeah SO getting ahead of ourselves here aren't we. I'm not even close to done with what I'm already working on. And the theme song thing is actually a cool idea IMO (would have done it myself if I had good enough equipment), but how to say it gently, judging from his filks I've seen, I think the filking should really be MY job.
I haven't replied him yet, because I haven't really had the time and also I don't really know what to say. I mean like it's like he's trying to take over my show. He says he really likes it and everything but at the same time he doesn't like the way I did it, make up your mind or at least that's the way he comes off with all his "suggestions", actually they're not even suggestions, they're more like telling me how it's supposed to be, "we should" this and this "can't" etc, stuff that completely ignores the first episode I already released. And this isn't "our" show. I don't even know him
And I never said my SouthTrek is perfect, or even good, or even better than his ideas. But hey I'm making this show. Wanna make your own, just make your own for crying out loud, like obviously he's got so many ideas that he likes and I don't own copyrights for either South Park or Star Trek so what's stopping him?? I said I was open for IDEAS... but I'm not open for a takeover. Sorry
Gah sorry. It just really irritates me and I had to vent.
We "met" again during KvP on the late FanLib (RIP). I don't know if Distracted remembers him or had any interaction with him to know who I'm talking about. But anyway he's like a big mouth, likes to brag about what he was in, who he's met etc and he always kept asking everyone not only to check out his stuff, but also to rate it high and favorite it and subscribe to him. Actually he kept doing that even after KvP was over.
Anyway. And like I said he's also a screenwriter, and in his comments on other people's scripts I think he kinda came off as if he thinks he's the only one who knows how to write professional scripts around there, or at least SHOULD be the only one (VERY nitpicky about stuff that isn't even a big deal, or a deal at all, and in his comment on my submission it was like he was surprised that I could write in proper screenplay format, and he already knew I'm an actress, why wouldn't I, I read proper screenplays don't I
). I don't know maybe I'm just reading too much into stuff. Would be easier if y'all knew who and what I'm talking about Oh and he recognized me from the Save Enterprise rally when he saw my picture. Well actually he recognized my sign. And then he actually wanted to date me.
Like he's like 50something (not that I'd date him anyway. Or anyone. But it was just kinda creepy )And he also posted on FanLib some ENT screenplays he wrote. I skimmed through the beginning of one of them and it included a Mary-Sue guy named after him of course.
Um yeah anyway. He really liked SouthTrek. So like a few days ago he emails me and asks if I'm gonna make more episodes and if I need voice cast. So I told him I was working on more eps of SouthTrek and also SouthTrek: Enterprise but it's gonna take a while because I'm only one person (with tons of medical issues
) but he's welcome to do some voices when (if ) the time comes.Then he also asked if he could help with the writing. So I was like sure why not, you can write episodes if you want or pitch ideas for episodes. Hell he probably knows TOS like way better than I do anyway. But since it's my show I laid the ground rules: there doesn't need to be continuity between episodes (like for example Scotty obviously not supposed to stay dead he's a regular character, like Kenny), Scotty is our Kenny/redshirt he dies in every episode, and the voice cast get to be extras sometimes. (That's because I already knew he likes writing himself into stuff. But it's a Trek/South Park parody not voice cast parody. The characters are supposed to be based on those shows. So like yeah I can add "extras" when there's some seats to fill in the school shuttlebus for example, but no "Substitute Teacher Mr. Terrell" or whatever
) But still character are at least supposed to be consistent with themselves, the first episode is like a "series bible" I guess. But I thought that was like way obvious Well so here's what he said: (red text added by me)
My ideas were, to do (at least) one parody episode for each of the series and films.
The Series:
South Trek: The Park-iginal Stories - The Or-is-it-all Cereal - The O-Parking-Lot Scarys - The Unthinkable Scares-me - The Unorthodox Series [TOS]
South Trek: The Nuts Concentration - The Park's Penetration - The Nukes DeGeneration - The Park's Population - The inNept Compilation - The Nerds Indignation - The Sexed Copulation - The Narc's Infiltration (There's a lot to work with there?) [TNG]
South Trek: Deep Shit Now-in - Parking Space None - Dope Smoke's Fine - Peep Show Nun - Deep South Coon - Dip Shit Mime - Dork Face Goon [DS9]
South Trek: Voyeur-Perk - Voyeur-Peeper - Village-People - Vegan-Eater - Valley-Girl - Vallet-Parker - Volley-Baller - Vacuum-Cleaner - Vomit-Hurler - Vasectomy-Hurt-Her - VillagePeople - (German "West")Vest Park Killer (Okay, I'll stop, there.) [Voyager]
South Trek: Enter-Pose - Enter-Parking-Slot - Exit-Prize - Eager-Goes - Easy-Highs - Eighty-Pies - In-Your-Nose - Enough-Tries [Enterprise]
(Alright, now for the films)
South Trek I: The Motion Sickness - The Mindless Fiction - The Massive Fracture - The Southern Park-Crew - The Parking Structure - The Mental Stresser - The Meaningless Picture - The Medical Practitioner [The Motion Picture]
South Trek II: The Rape Of Khenny - The Rats On Khenny - The Wraps Of Khenny - The Rips Of Commies - The Rap Of Chef - The Crap Of Sean - The Wealth Of Cons - The Crap Of Juan - The Craft Of Connie [The Wrath of Khan]
South Trek III: The Spinach For S'Park - The Stench For S'Park - The Smirks For S'Park - The Switch For S'Park - The Snitch For S'Park - The South For Park [The Search for Spock]
South Trek IV: The Voyeur Homo - The Voyage Hobo - The Village Hippo - The Vulgar Hippie - The Vasectomy Prone - The inVestment Home [The Voyage Home]
South Trek V: The Final Found-deer - The Flabby Fat-Queer - The Frugal Financier - The Fatal Flatulenter - The Fruity Flouter - The Facial Flounder - The Finite Fester [The Final Frontier]
South Trek VI: The Undisturbed County - The Uninteresting Country - The Unidentified Croney - The Undeveloped Clone-Me - The Undercovered Commie [The Undiscovered Country]
South Trek VII: DeGenerations - Generators - Gender-Haters - Jerry-Springer Nation - Geriatric-Patients - Generalizations - SouthTrekkie-nations [Generations]
South Trek VIII: Flesh Contact - Fist Contact - Fresh Contract - Fish Combat [First Contact]
South Trek IX: Indiscretion - Indirection - Sin-Erection - Same-Direction - Inoculation - Inhibition - Masturbation - Inhalation - In-Destruction - Annihilation [Insurrection]
South Trek X: Numb-Nuts-Is-Us - Nefarious - Nimbleness - Numberless - None-Of-Us [Nemesis]
While some of those parody names are hilarious, most of them just plain don't make sense and are obviously just random words thrown together because they rhyme or start with the same letter etc. Also those parody names (the clever ones anyway) are more like the kinda stuff that's suitable for Mad Magazine parody titles (I'm kinda assuming y'all at least looked inside a Mad Magazine and I won't have to explain it
). As for naming a film or especially a series that's based on Trek and South Park, I wouldn't throw some random parody title on it because the whole series or film would be expected to live up to it. Like for example I wouldn't name my TOS spoof say "SouthTrek: The O-Parking-Lot Scarys". Parking lots? Scary? What does that have to do with anything?? And besides it's already got a name... SouthTrek. And the ENT spoof is named SouthTrek: Enterprise. Sometimes simple works best IMO... tells it like it is and leaves the content for the actual plot rather than a confusing completely unrelated title.
Well JMO anyway. My show, my decision though.
One thing, Scotty (I know you want to cast Kenny as Scotty - the names sound similar - but he's a "main-stay" in the cast, and can't die... sorry?) can't die (like Kenny does) BUT... if Kenny was the proverbial "Red Shirt" then - we could kill him off every episode, right?!!!
Too late. I already DID cast him as Kenny because he's like the only main character who wears a redshirt, I wanted a main character because Kenny is also a main character. I didn't cast him because of the "name similarity" (huh??
) but because of the redshirt. And if Kenny the main character can get killed every episode so can Scotty on SouthTrek. Because I said so.We should write "parody" episodes as closely to the actual episodes (and films eventually) as we dare, but of course make it parody and funny, agreed?
And I have an idea for the "film" character of Khan..."Khenny" (or "Kha-en-ney" as it's pronounced) is my idea there, and he gets killed off at the end - how does this sound?
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Once more thing - we should redo the Theme Songs too - I can mimic the singer's voice of Primus perfectly!!! We could do a Star Trek-ish rendition of South Park's theme, or visa versa - either way I could do it; but a South Park-ish versionwould have lyrics, so that seems the best way to go, to me, at least; how about you?
Lyrics:
Beam on up to South Trek, gonna meet alien friends of mine.
blah blah... (I need to get a copy of the real lyrics, to parodize them, huh?)
Yeah SO getting ahead of ourselves here aren't we.
I'm not even close to done with what I'm already working on. And the theme song thing is actually a cool idea IMO (would have done it myself if I had good enough equipment), but how to say it gently, judging from his filks I've seen, I think the filking should really be MY job. I haven't replied him yet, because I haven't really had the time and also I don't really know what to say.
I mean like it's like he's trying to take over my show. He says he really likes it and everything but at the same time he doesn't like the way I did it, make up your mind or at least that's the way he comes off with all his "suggestions", actually they're not even suggestions, they're more like telling me how it's supposed to be, "we should" this and this "can't" etc, stuff that completely ignores the first episode I already released. And this isn't "our" show. I don't even know him And I never said my SouthTrek is perfect, or even good, or even better than his ideas. But hey I'm making this show. Wanna make your own, just make your own for crying out loud, like obviously he's got so many ideas that he likes and I don't own copyrights for either South Park or Star Trek so what's stopping him?? I said I was open for IDEAS... but I'm not open for a takeover. Sorry
Gah sorry. It just really irritates me and I had to vent.
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