Randomness

[Kevin Thomas Riley]

Well, you could add a suggestion of your own, but it was too cumbersome so I gave it up...

[WarpGirl]

Hmm who would I choose, probably the Borg Queen in First Contact, I'm not one to get scared of movies, and characters. But She scared me. I think it was because of DATA's and Picard's reactions to her, as opposed to just her as a character.

[Asso]

^ What about Emperor Palpatine? He gets my vote!

[Kevin Thomas Riley]

[WarpGirl]

Yeah so smart. Honestly he was truly evil, but I don't think the Jedi helped the situation, because of the Code, and because they were idiots. Don't get me wrong I'm a total SW's freak, and a total Jedi. But I'm a Jedi of the Qui-Gon Ginn mode, because well he wasn't an idiot.

[Escriba]

True, true. Palpatine was the real bad guy in Star Wars, and not Vader.

It's like Sauron. People say "Oh, Sauron is the Evil." No, no, my boys. That's Melkor. Sauron was Melkor's coffee boy.

Vader and Sauron, both of them are just scholars.

[WarpGirl]

God Escriba I swear sometimes we share a brain! Are you a KOTOR girl too?

[Asso]

True, true. Palpatine was the real bad guy in Star Wars, and not Vader.

It's like Sauron. People say "Oh, Sauron is the Evil." No, no, my boys. That's Melkor. Sauron was Melkor's coffee boy.

Vader and Sauron, both of them are just scholars.

I don't know.
"The Lord of the Rings" can't be restrained into such tiny limits.

[WarpGirl]

Now I'm lost. LOTR was never on my do list. Too bad SGA isn't a movie, we could Vote for Micheal.

[Escriba]

I don't know.
"The Lord of the Rings" can't be restrained into such tiny limits.

I've discussed it a lot of times with people that only watched LOTR or only read those novels. Tolkien's world is bigger and if we take the entire History of Arda, Melkor wins. He was the one who was out of tune in the Ainulindalë and then fighted the other Valar. After this, he destroyed the Lamps that illuminated the Arda. Melkor took some Elvens and created the Orcs. As always, he feigned his repentance, he deceived the Noldor (which was, by the way, incredibly easy) and created war among them. And then, he destroyed the Trees of Valinor through Ungoliant. Ah, and he took the powerful silmarils in the meantime Which, by the way, started the Wars of Beleriand (that almost destroyed Middle Earth.) In the end, the Valar exiled him permanently from the world, thrusting him through the Door of Night into the void, and he is not expected to return.

Sauron was his chief servant. Evil, yes, but servant. Sauron's most evil deed was creating the One Ring. But the truth is that he used Elven's knowledge to do it and that the rest of the rings were made by the Elvens themselves (a race that never learns, as it seems )

God Escriba I swear sometimes we share a brain! Are you a KOTOR girl too?

Well, yes. Unfortunately, I've only played KOTOR II. I know that the first installment is better, but I've never had the chance to play it Anyway, I know the story. Bastila Shan and Revan make "Romeo & Juliet" look like a comedy

[WarpGirl]

Oh God you HAVE to play K1 as Female Revan and nab Carth!!!!!!!!! I know this might sound a little freaky but it is possible to go nuts for a computer character. He is definitely as good as Trip. You might be the person to inspire me to get back into my two fics. But not until I've finished this one. Because I've learned my lesson one story at a time. As for TSL I loved Kreia and I'm in the minority, I hate Atris, but my favorite is Visas/Male Exile and if you look closely she's not all that submissive. Oh and I nearly killed the Handmaiden the only thing that stopped me was I'm too Jedi to do it. Hate Mical. So I usually don't play female Exile. If you want to have some fun go here... www.kotorfanmedia.com Oh SilverSentinal21 is me. I miss it but the site is pretty dead right now, still recovering from being hacked. But the fic is really great!

[Asso]

I don't know.
"The Lord of the Rings" can't be restrained into such tiny limits.

I've discussed it a lot of times with people that only watched LOTR or only read those novels. Tolkien's world is bigger and if we take the entire History of Arda, Melkor wins. He was the one who was out of tune in the Ainulindalë and then fighted the other Valar. After this, he destroyed the Lamps that illuminated the Arda. Melkor took some Elvens and created the Orcs. As always, he feigned his repentance, he deceived the Noldor (which was, by the way, incredibly easy) and created war among them. And then, he destroyed the Trees of Valinor through Ungoliant. Ah, and he took the powerful silmarils in the meantime Which, by the way, started the Wars of Beleriand (that almost destroyed Middle Earth.) In the end, the Valar exiled him permanently from the world, thrusting him through the Door of Night into the void, and he is not expected to return.

Sauron was his chief servant. Evil, yes, but servant. Sauron's most evil deed was creating the One Ring. But the truth is that he used Elven's knowledge to do it and that the rest of the rings were made by the Elvens themselves (a race that never learns, as it seems )

My friend, I love Tolkien and I have read all he wrote.
Probably I didn't be capable of expressing clearly myself.
You are absolutely right, but Sauron is such a great and tragic figure that - servant or not servant - he enlightens threateningly any thing.
I think you agree with me about that, and, surely, Sauron is the vivid proof of the art of Tolkien.

[justTripn]

Asso, start a LOTR thread! (Not that I can contribute, but I'm sure you will find some fellow fans).

[Escriba]

As for TSL I loved Kreia and I'm in the minority, I hate Atris,

Why? Kreia is super cool and Atris is a perfect JERK. I wanted her dead even before I knew she was corrupted.

but my favorite is Visas/Male Exile and if you look closely she's not all that submissive.

Give me five! I think Visas rules Really! Her love story with the Male Exile is great (better than with the Handmaiden, for sure.)

You are absolutely right, but Sauron is such a great and tragic figure that - servant or not servant - he enlightens threateningly any thing.
I think you agree with me about that, and, surely, Sauron is the vivid proof of the art of Tolkien.

Oh, yes, of course. Tolkien's world is more complex than anything I said (although I still blame Elvens for everything because it's funnier ) He expresses perfectly how there is darkness and evilness in everybody (aside of the big evil), and that it doesn't mind how dark the future looks, you must go on and do the right thing.

[WarpGirl]

Escriba where have you been all my life, I mean that in a completely non-romantic way. Oh please please join the Kotor club we need new blood, and I need backup. You made my day my sister in Canada has just tried to make me insane like usual. Thank you for making me smile before I did something stupid.