Huge Star Trek XI Spoiler

[Linda]

Well, I will go see it too, but I'm not getting overly excited about it right now.

[Linda]

A thought just occurred to me. It seems in the ST movies they always have to distroy something that will shock the audience, then bring it back in some way in the next movie. Examples - the original Enterprise, Spock dying, The Enterprise D, Data dying.

SPOILER!!!:

So in this movie they are continuing the tradition with the destruction of Vulcan? And "bringing the planet back" by having it done in an alternate universe? .

This whole destroy-something-the-fans-love thing is getting a bit old and tired for me. Or maybe it is me that is getting old and tired.

[Asso]

You're right, Linda.
But they are not inventive, this sort of things is older that the stories of Lucian of Samosata. And, normally, they denote some lack of imaginativeness, for me.

[Kevin Thomas Riley]

I have never been keen on this movie, and now I'm even less keen on it. I've always considered this a reboot, and not from the point of divergence with Nero's incursion, but from the very start. I mean everyone being so close in age, the design aesthetics, the Enterprise being built on the frakkin' ground, Kirk as a young rebel without a cause...

BTW, where are the links where you can read these spoilers?

[Distracted]

Just highlight 'em and they show up in the box.

[Reanok]

SPOILER!!!:

When it comes to Spock having a romantic relationship with Uhura. I don't really care for that idea. Also killing off Spock's mom really stinks. And don't get me started about Jj having Vulcan being destroyed by Nero.

I have to say I not sure how I feel about certain story elements when it comes to Spock's character in this movie.Or the other characters until I get to seethis movie in a few weeks.

[Kevin Thomas Riley]

Just highlight 'em and they show up in the box.

I don't mean the spoiler boxes here, but links to wherever it is online that you can read about this.

[Kevin Thomas Riley]

Never mind, I found the spoilers in a TrekBBS thread and I must say I now hate this movie. It effectively erases and replaces all previous 40+ years of established Trek continuity for no good reason, except they think it will be successful with the new younger audience. It's not even an honest reboot, like nuBSG, which didn't replace the old one. If the wanted a new "kewl" Trek they should've just dived into that with no plot line about time travel from the original that overwrites what went on before.

I will still view Abrams Trek as an honest reboot, a universe that exists parallel with the original without crapping all over it.

[Aquarius]

This makes absolutely no sense. Trek fans are loyal and passionate. They'd have to know they're risking alienating the very people who've kept the franchise alive for over 40 years--the people who, up to now, have spent their hard-earned paychecks on books and DVDs and artwork and convention tickets and tee shirts and posters and all that officially licensed stuff that puts money into their pockets. So maybe the franchise isn't the cash cow it once was (economic crisis across the board, anyone?), but really I don't see how they're gonna get MORE money by giving the longtime hardcore fans the finger in the process of trying to attract new ones.

[Elessar]

This makes absolutely no sense. Trek fans are loyal and passionate. They'd have to know they're risking alienating the very people who've kept the franchise alive for over 40 years--the people who, up to now, have spent their hard-earned paychecks on books and DVDs and artwork and convention tickets and tee shirts and posters and all that officially licensed stuff that puts money into their pockets. So maybe the franchise isn't the cash cow it once was (economic crisis across the board, anyone?), but really I don't see how they're gonna get MORE money by giving the longtime hardcore fans the finger in the process of trying to attract new ones.

They're more "now"-oriented than that. J.J. Abrams has made a career proving that you can make successfully profitable television and film by just using a lure that'll get the one-time bites every time, even if they never come back. It can be more profitable to put no effort into something everyone will watch once than than to put a lot of effort into something fewer people will watch for decades

[Kevin Thomas Riley]

That's why his Alias and Lost ultimately made no sense and I stopped caring, and consequently stopped watching those shows.

[Elessar]

That's why his Alias and Lost ultimately made no sense and I stopped caring, and consequently stopped watching those shows.

Lost I have to defend... just b/c I've been watching it forever, and if you watch it back to back on DVD or downloaded, it makes more sense than if you try to follow it week-to-week, because details are lost. (lol, no pun intended).

I hate that I love it but I do.