Books

[Linda]

Asso, are Trip and T'Pol together you mean from their baby daughter Elizabeth's death? I think that is what you mean, and not since his sister Elizabeth's death?

[Asso]

Oh yes, I am sorry!
I wasn't clear.
I did want to mean, as you correctly interpreted, "from their baby daughter Elizabeth's death".

[enterprikayak]

.....All these things in swindling the wanton angst.

As Dante says, "YOU WEREN'T BE BORN TO LIVE AS BRUTES, BUT TO FOLLOW VIRTUE AND KNOWLEDGE".

But Asso, without the ANGST none of the TripT'Polers would have flocked here and created the madness! They would have dusted their hands of in 2005 and been all, well that's a job done!

So really (and I mean this in the carefullest possible way).....
......we actually have the....... Beebs......y'know.... to ... *cough* *cough* .......
..................................."thank"?...........

NO! It's too bizarre! I cannot thank them!

Anyway. Yes the angst is annoying. But it is really the only thing keeping peeps around.

However I salute your challenge anyhow! No more wanton angst!

(Except my story has a bit more wanton angst in it. But then later I fix it. So when I am done, y'know in 2015, then my angst-contribution will be done.

2015! That's less than 8 years! I better get going!

[Distracted]

I've got you beaten with the neverending story EK. 2 1/2 years and mine's still going...and going....

[Rigil Kent]

I still also have yet to actually read TGTMD. I have owned the book for a while but getting thoroughly spoiled by the story I find I'm in no actual hurry to read it.

Don't bother.

In fact, yesterday I started on part 2 A Clash of Kings in George R.R. Martin's A Song of Fire and Ice fantasy saga.

You know, you never told me what you thought about the first one ... I mean, it was at my urging that you picked up A Game of Thrones ...

[CX]

I'd still be exactly where I'm at now if *the_abomination* never existed, sorry, but FND is out to fix the entire series to make it what it should have been to begin with, not just one episode.

[JadziaKathryn]

2015! That's less than 8 years! I better get going!

This is where the internet comes in so much handier than those fanfic magazines I hear tell of...

[Asso]

.....All these things in swindling the wanton angst.

As Dante says, "YOU WEREN'T BE BORN TO LIVE AS BRUTES, BUT TO FOLLOW VIRTUE AND KNOWLEDGE".

But Asso, without the ANGST none of the TripT'Polers would have flocked here and created the madness! They would have dusted their hands of in 2005 and been all, well that's a job done!

So really (and I mean this in the carefullest possible way).....
......we actually have the....... Beebs......y'know.... to ... *cough* *cough* .......
..................................."thank"?...........

NO! It's too bizarre! I cannot thank them!

Anyway. Yes the angst is annoying. But it is really the only thing keeping peeps around.

However I salute your challenge anyhow! No more wanton angst!

(Except my story has a bit more wanton angst in it. But then later I fix it. So when I am done, y'know in 2015, then my angst-contribution will be done.

2015! That's less than 8 years! I better get going!

Love and angst are indissolubly bonded, it is a fact.
No one of the great love stories of the literature of the whole world would have been written without angst.
Ero and Leander, Eros and Psyche, Juliet and Romeo (Oh but look who’s here!)…
What I call wanton angst is the foolish and stubborn refusal to understand your own feeling, like it happen in that book.
Angst and love: the fight against troubles, maybe to succumb to destiny and a lot of other things. But always,ALWAYS, aware and proud of your own feelings and of the feeling of the loved by you!
After the long journey Trip and T'Pol did, could and should I think them as apart?
Blast it! What a stupid woman should be T'Pol! Fear and fear and fear. Again! But how long? And thank goodness she is Vulcan and Vulcans don't feel fear!
I said: wanton angst!
Anyway i look forward for your Fics.
I just can wait.

[Reanok]

Reading Shuttle Down by Lee Corey. What i really like about this book is how real the characters come to life in this book and how Nasa deals with the Shuttle Atlantis having engine trouble has to make an emergency landing on Easter island and how they have to get it off the island all difficulties they have.And how an enemy goverment wants to stop them at all costs.

[Rigil Kent]

Just finished Mass Effect: Revelations, which is intended to be a prequel for the X-Box game Mass Effect coming out in November. Said prequel accomplished the task of making me look forward to the game even more than previously...

Also read The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss. Despite being told that it was the best thing since sliced bread, I found it to be only slightly above average.

[justTripn]

I read the All Creatures Great and Small, All Things Bright and Beautiful and all the other ones (forget the names now) back in high school. All I remember now is they were sooo good and so funny, I read them slowly so as not to "waste them." That's my excuse for reading TGTMD so slowy. I really enjoyed it. Why waste an Enterprise relaunch book? We will wait a long time for another.

[Rigil Kent]

Why waste an Enterprise relaunch book?

Because it wasn't very good? Because there were plot holes you could drive a planetoid through? Because I've read numerous fanfics that were better thought out and better written? (I mean, Trip as a spy? Come on.) Because none of the characters actually felt or sounded like the ENT characters? Because too many of the ENT events referenced in the book were referenced wrong? Because it continued the stupid "will they? won't they?" tripe of season 4 that pissed some people off and, based on LFM, there isn't a happy ending in store?

But that's just my opinion, and I'm sure I'll be accused of bashing again. *shrug*

[Kevin Thomas Riley]

In fact, yesterday I started on part 2 A Clash of Kings in George R.R. Martin's A Song of Fire and Ice fantasy saga.

You know, you never told me what you thought about the first one ... I mean, it was at my urging that you picked up A Game of Thrones ...

Didn't I...? Well, then I guess I should really thank you for the tip beacuse I really liked A Game of thrones. The tag on the cover (from some review) said "characters as vile as the Borgias" and boy, they weren't kidding!

It was quite dark and realistic for a fantasy, but then it didn't have much of what you'd call "magic". And people do get killed or are otherwise treated badly.

SPOILER!!!:

I was actually surprised that they chopped of Lord Eddard's head. And his whiny stupid daughter Sansa, God I hate her! The Lannisters are a bad bunch, but I find myself liking Tyrion the dwarf. And it's not like everyone on the "good" side are that good. Take Lady Arryn for instance. I'm not sure if I have a favourite character, but I like Jon Snow, and the Lannister dwarf. And then there are some that I hope will have gruesome deaths before this saga is all over.

I can also see where you got your writing style from, Rigil. Martin is consistently using the Third-person limited omniscient POV, as do you.

I can't wait to see what HBO will make of this!

[Rigil Kent]

It was quite dark and realistic for a fantasy, but then it didn't have much of what you'd call "magic".

More "magic" does begin to show up in increments as the series continues.

The death you mentioned actually caught me by surprise because it was so low key. Up until the point that Martin pulled the trigger and did it, I was halfway expecting some sort of deux ex machina to explain how the doomed character would get out of it. As to favorite characters, Jon Snow is easily my favorite, so I keep expecting something horrible to happen to him ('cause Martin is pure concentrated evil in that fashion.) I think the element that I like the most is that the characters remain consistent to their personalities...

I can also see where you got your writing style from, Rigil. Martin is consistently using the Third-person limited omniscient POV, as do you.

It'd be inaccurate to say that I acquired my writing style from Martin as I was already writing in this style prior to reading A Game of Thrones, but it would be accurate to say that the book encouraged me to keep writing in that style.

Glad you enjoyed it!

[Elessar]

Why waste an Enterprise relaunch book?

Because it wasn't very good? Because there were plot holes you could drive a planetoid through? Because I've read numerous fanfics that were better thought out and better written? (I mean, Trip as a spy? Come on.) Because none of the characters actually felt or sounded like the ENT characters? Because too many of the ENT events referenced in the book were referenced wrong? Because it continued the stupid "will they? won't they?" tripe of season 4 that pissed some people off and, based on LFM, there isn't a happy ending in store?

But that's just my opinion, and I'm sure I'll be accused of bashing again. *shrug*

I'm not gonna accuse you of bashing, but I am going to accuse you of not reading the whole book. The events weren't incorrectly referenced. They also friggin got it on in the bond, and they made out in person - that's not very 'will they/won't they'. You're right, Trip's not a good spy -- a fact he and the narrator remind the reader of about half a dozen times. He botches up their plans, he barely escapes with his life and really only out of luck and his engy skills, nothing spy-related. And you can't tell from the end of LFM that there isn't a happy ending in store. They never say he wasn't with T'Pol, and there's a third one on the way that may illuminate more in that regard.

As far as the writing quality, I found some of the devices and writing structure to be predictable but overall I felt it was a serious improvement over LFM, which I could barely trudge through just to get to the TnT parts. I did also find Archer occasionally OOC, the others had such minor parts that I never really noticed. Malcolm made a few remarks that were uncharacteristically 'deep' that I noticed.

And the funny thing is, I also noticed Travis OOC -- because he had a few scenes where he actaully talked a lot . But I didn't think it was all that horrible.