For the Bullet Layman

[Elessar]

When I bought my 454 it was also availible in a 50 cal chambering. I don't recall which one it was but the .454 had a sharper harsher recoil and the 50 was more of a push. This was before they watered down the Casul loading to current specs. I have used both old and new and the original loading was nasty!

Both were single action revolvers with 5 shot capacity.

I bought the Casul because it was rare and intereting I sold it for more than I paid some 10 years later.

Unless you are regularly in the wilds of ALaska or Canada, or do long range shilouette you really don't have much need for such a large caliber. Then again need iften has nothing to do with want.

HtH

So true!

I've always thought the .454 Casull was an interesting round but never really wanted one. I guess I just figured if I was going to buy a huge caliber revolver like that, I'd pick up a .460 S&W or .50 S&W. But I think it's more likely that in the event I want a large caliber pistol for actual functionality - putting it in my vehicle or carry - I would go with something more managable like .357 mag. I think if I bought something between .44, .460, .454, or .50, it would be mostly for novelty.

Unless, like you said, I decide to start free camping in the Rockies

[Navigator]

When I bought my 454 it was also availible in a 50 cal chambering. I don't recall which one it was but the .454 had a sharper harsher recoil and the 50 was more of a push. This was before they watered down the Casul loading to current specs. I have used both old and new and the original loading was nasty!

I agree. The worst handgun I ever fired was a Taurus Raging Bull in .454. Four rounds and I was done for life. I have also fired one of the S&W .500s with the 4 inch barrel. I was firing mid-range reloads and it was not too bad. Well, I mean it wasn't like having someone whack your hand with a baseball bat. I have heard the 460 S&W is a real handful. Won't go near that one. Nor any of the Scandium magnums.

[Elessar]

Has anyone fired a Derringer (like the COP Derringer) in .357 magnum or .38 special? I'd really like one, I think they're really neat little CCW weapons with a powerful cartridge. And 4 rounds of such a powerful cartridge is a decent line of defense, in my opinion. They're not made new anymore, but I've discovered that there are used ones in good condition (even a few new-in-box for a premium) one can locate.

Anyone?

[hth2k]

Consider the fact a derringer is considered a "belly" gun. That is unless you are close enough to stick it in your assailent's belly forget using it.

Much better would be the other small flat sided semi-autos such as the miniglocks in something like .40 S&W model 27 as a concealed piece or backup. Several officers I know use the little glocks and swear by them for back up use. The model 29 is a .45 and the model 28 is 10 mm.

I have seen the old classic 2 shot american derringer style in 45-70 and .223. While interesting as curios, I would not wish to fire one.

YMMV,

HtH

[blacknblue]

If you want a backup weapon to carry concealed, consider something in a small caliber. Like a .32 for instance. A .32 auto will certainly kill a man at close range. Practically speaking, any gun small enough to carry concealed is going to have an effective accuracy of about 5 yards. From 5 to 10 yards you might be able to count on hitting somewhere on a Human torso if you have time to aim carefully. Beyond that just throw the gun, you will do about as much good.

[Elessar]

What happens when a computer nerd becomes a gun nerd...















The dent is from a .22LR, the holes are both from 7.62x54R. I took the guns out today


And btw, just for my own bragging rights, that .22 round was delivered at somewhere between 75 and 100 yards.

[Alelou]

Don't tell the EPA, I think you're blowing mercury around the environment there!

[Linda]

Well that is one way to kill an old computer, LOL.

[Kevin Thomas Riley]

Sometimes I wish I could do that to my computer... especially the one at work!

[hth2k]

Something to remember is the simple fact that both mercury and lead are natural elements. They come out of the ground. Bith are mined and exist abundantly and naturally.

As a child I lived in New Almaden. It was and still is a small village at the southern end of the Santa Clara valley here in No. CA. There is a reddish rock in abundance all around that area called cinnabar. If you find a piece laying around and smash it with a hammer little drops of what we called quicksilver come out and can be collected. This is raw natural mercury. How do I know? I used to break up cinnabar chunks I found in my back yard as a kid. There was a vein of ore running right through town.

Both are relatively benign in their natural state if handled properly. When heated the vapors do a lot of damage to people. Both can be absorbed through the skin so avoid prolonged contact. Ptolonged contact is something to be avoided.

HtH

[Elessar]

Something to remember is the simple fact that both mercury and lead are natural elements. They come out of the ground. Bith are mined and exist abundantly and naturally.

As a child I lived in New Almaden. It was and still is a small village at the southern end of the Santa Clara valley here in No. CA. There is a reddish rock in abundance all around that area called cinnabar. If you find a piece laying around and smash it with a hammer little drops of what we called quicksilver come out and can be collected. This is raw natural mercury. How do I know? I used to break up cinnabar chunks I found in my back yard as a kid. There was a vein of ore running right through town.

Both are relatively benign in their natural state if handled properly. When heated the vapors do a lot of damage to people. Both can be absorbed through the skin so avoid prolonged contact. Ptolonged contact is something to be avoided.

HtH

lol, did you copy and paste warnings from wikipedia, b/c you kinda repeated yourself justa bit

Is there mercury in a HDD?

Wouldn't be surprised, but I didn't know that.

[hth2k]

No I just typed from memory. Sorry, these new meds make me fuzzy for a while right after I take them. Doc says I will get used to them. Should have reread and edited.

Hard drive? Don't think so but really no idea. Some bad stuff can be in capacitors, transformrs and displays. There is lead in the solder.

Anyone else?

HtH

[Elessar]

No I just typed from memory. Sorry, these new meds make me fuzzy for a while right after I take them. Doc says I will get used to them. Should have reread and edited.

Hard drive? Don't think so but really no idea. Some bad stuff can be in capacitors, transformrs and displays. There is lead in the solder.

Anyone else?

HtH

I don't think they use lead solder anymore - at least, when I go shopping for it, I always see 'tin'. Maybe they're allowed to use it industrially still, IDK.

Course there's lead in the bullets though

I gotta get out to the range and practice more, that M91 just jumps all over the place. I couldn't hit a cow at 50 yards.

[blacknblue]

If it jumps badly, you might be gripping it too tightly. You want to grip it firmly but not tight. Otherwise the shockwave will be transmitted back into you and throw off your aim.

[Alelou]

Actually I'm sure you're fine as long as you don't spray your bullets through a circuit board into a tiny chamber, then lick up all the dust that collects on the floor of it afterwards. And I wouldn't make soup with old circuit boards either.

On the other hand, as this stuff piles up in landfills, we could run into issues with groundwater.