T'Pol's Un-Vulcan Like Behavior

[WarpGirl]

Agreed!

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Warpgirl. Mind if i throw myself at your feet and Grovel for a while?

We are agreed on what ruined Enterprise, ARCHER.

[WarpGirl]

Not necessary I assure you! But the writing didn't help any either. Well at least for MOST of the episodes I have seen thus far. I'm out of UnVulcan things about T'Pol.

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You know TnT are my favorite couple. I don't know why but the were so right.

I liked P/T but in the third season when torres tells tom she loves him I thought that was it. Of course we got that stupid episode where they got married and we find out that it was not them but some kind of clones of them who die trying to get back to a planet.

the only other couple I did like was the Doctor in Voyager and the Vividian woman who was in the pod that they brought on board. doctor put her in Statis and made hologram of her. they fall in love. tom even urges the Doctor to park with her and neck. I can never understand the ending of that. Put the vividian back in the capsule and send her on her way and keep the hologram. I liked the Actress and she would have made a nice additon to the crew as another Doctor. but NO, for some stupid reason which still eludes me that didn't happen.

I can forgive t-Pol almost anything. I try like all get out to understand her motivations but it is sure hard at times.

But for all of the couples I have seen on TV shows TnT are the closet to being what I wanted to see in a relationship and was never shown.

The thought of two beings of diferent species fall in love and becoming a couple seemed to have made Enterprise for me. didn't have to be anything but the "B" thread and only brought up once in a while but often enough so that we didn't forget them.

[WarpGirl]

But P/T DO get married for real AND have a BABY!!!!

But yeah I love TnT too, for all the reasons you said. They had a real spark, the actors did anyway, and it made it work. Chemistry is important you either have it or you don't. Funny thing is actors don't even have to like each other to have it, not good ones anyway. I understand BOTH Trip and T'Pol Trip because I'm human and T'Pol because I'm a woman. They could have really made something special there.

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Yup P/T did get married but we never saw the ceremony and did not see baby Miral. Only time we saw her was in the final episode as a young Ensign inStarfleet.

I would have liked to seen Paris go to Siickbay and meet his new Daughter.

wish that had come about in season five so the the Girl could have been shown starting to grow up after all the had the Portman girl.

Thst wouold have been great for Tnt too. Married, in space, Phlox helping t-Pol and Trip to have a child and see it living on Enterprise until it got back to Earth.

True, that would have put a spanner in the works as far as TnT being on the enteprise but that coould have been worked out.

that and instead of Baby Elizabeth TnT's real baby being kidnapped by Terra Prime and TnT rescuing thier child.

That would have been some ending to the series if it was going to get the axe.

[WarpGirl]

If wishes were horses... But then why would we write if we got what we wanted?

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Well, just what has been written. some sensible fics instead of that junk we were forced fed on the series.

As I have said I lam in bed unable to sleep so my mind conjures up stories about TnT.

I read some great fanfic writers and envy Hell out of them. their ideas as so far a head of mine. but I read their stories eagerly. they content the Hell out of me.

Not all as some have TnT breaking up and leaving one another forever and that doesn't sit wel; with me at all.

also have accidently read a A/Tp story until i Caught on it was that Crap and stopped reading.

I Hate Slash periiod.

I think that the characters of TnT should be treated with respect and dignity and Slash doesn't do that.

So, I live in a dream world of TnT sue me.

A little escapism doesn't hurt anyone.

[WarpGirl]

Hey aside from Chocolate, Brad Pitt, and the occasional glass of wine Fanfic is my ONLY vice. And life is tough, to spend all of your time in reality would drive you crazy anyway.

What I want to know is... Why did it take T'Pol so long to accept time travel. I mean she's a scientist the ST evidence was there, what was the big deal? Isn't it illogical to deny something right in front of you, and a little creepy. Just saying...

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Because she was Vulcan. the Vulcan science directorate said time Travel was impossible so t-Pol subbornly stuck to that in spite of all evidece to the contrary. Vulcan Logic. Stupid but that is how she was brought up. to believe that the Vulcans were always right and the rest of the galaxy was wrong if it disagreed with the Vulcan sicence.

You know the first time that Daniel showed up in that episode where we meet silik again.

There was a lot of plotholes in that one.

Daniels said to Archer "don't I always serve your scrambled Eggs the way you like them?' this indicates that Daniel had been on board for some time so why wasn't he set for silik before silik came on board instead of getting ready after silik was alrady on board. why didn't daniel have a couple other time patrol men with him.

If silik could see into the future so he could stop the cascade in the engines and save Enterprise why in Hell didn't daniel know that Silik was going to shoot him Why did daniel not have a phaser on him and help?

When Super Archer chases and fights Silik and silik launches himself out of the Enterprise and down to the waiting suliban ship that was impossible. He would have been frozen stiff in seconds, would drown for lack of an atmosphere to breathe. the huge Red Star was too close so he would have fallen into its gravity well. Plus the radiation from the star that close would have killed everyone on board Enteprise and the Suliban ship and Silik. also siliks Kinetic energy would have blasted the suliban ship too bits when he hit it.

T-Pol's stubborn refusal to admit totime travel was sheer nonsense. Put the character in a bad light made her look stupid.

[WarpGirl]

Oh well the Rommies probably had something to do with it.

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Warpgirl, easy way out. Why would the romulans have anything to do with that so early in the series?

Always hated that Daniels hero worshippped Archer and said he was the savior of Earth and the creator of the federation.

thought that Archer was but one of many who created the Federation.

That is what put me off about the series this damned Super Archer who knows everyting can do no wrong or at least gets away with it.

If I remember correctly it was the whole Enterprise crew that destroyeed the weapon and destroyed the spheres. Archer didn't operate in a vacuum.

Nevertheless Soong addresses him as Archer the man who saved Earth.

Hosi sure had a hand in it. Reed to, Trip and T-Pol, Major Hayes who got killed rescuing Hoshi who later sick as she was acompanied Archer and showed him how to disarm the weapon and set it to self destruct. without her Archer would not have been able to do a thing. shran coming along and destroying the reptilian ship. The xindi allies who helped out Enterprise and Archer.

I didn't hear about any school being named after Hoshi or trip and they had just as much credit for the saving of Earth as ARcher.

[WarpGirl]

Whoa! I surrender... Hey I thought we were on the same side. OK bed time for me...

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Good night lady. Sweet Dreams of TnT

[Asso]

Warpgirl, easy way out. Why would the romulans have anything to do with that so early in the series?

Always hated that Daniels hero worshippped Archer and said he was the savior of Earth and the creator of the federation.

thought that Archer was but one of many who created the Federation.

That is what put me off about the series this damned Super Archer who knows everyting can do no wrong or at least gets away with it.

If I remember correctly it was the whole Enterprise crew that destroyeed the weapon and destroyed the spheres. Archer didn't operate in a vacuum.

Nevertheless Soong addresses him as Archer the man who saved Earth.

Hosi sure had a hand in it. Reed to, Trip and T-Pol, Major Hayes who got killed rescuing Hoshi who later sick as she was acompanied Archer and showed him how to disarm the weapon and set it to self destruct. without her Archer would not have been able to do a thing. shran coming along and destroying the reptilian ship. The xindi allies who helped out Enterprise and Archer.

I didn't hear about any school being named after Hoshi or trip and they had just as much credit for the saving of Earth as ARcher.

As for any of your points, I think you're right.