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I didn't get anything done tonight...

Postby Elessar » Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:57 am

Hey guys, tonight was my last night on the clock before Aquarius takes over and 1 or 2 of you may be expecting your story up before too long.

Unfortunately I had a really weird incident where I had to go to the hospital. I was working out like normal and started to get a little light headed so I took a breather, no sweat. I've trained pretty hard, both before and at Marine Corps training, so I know my limits very well and I've gotten close to the edge of passing out before but I know how to avoid it.

This time, however, something weird happened. I started to see red/black like you do when you're going to pass out, but as I sat down and drank water and breathed slow and even, it didn't go away. I got in front of a fan to cool off and it got exponentially worse. For the next 20 or 25 minutes I was stumbling around the house unable to see (the red/black spots completely impairing my vision) but still on the edge of consciousness. There was a lot of general panic and disorientation but I don't remember a lot of what was going on. It's kind of a blur, but there were a lot of strange symptoms. I remember the base of my neck hurting really really bad. My fingers were stiff but also felt like they were vibrating the way your funny bone does when you bump it or when your whole leg falls asleep, only it lasted awhile. My vision kept going in and out every time I'd move or get up, and was totally out for a good 10 minutes. After drinking water, sitting still, stretching, whatever I could think of, and it not going away, I ate an orange and it started to get better. I was still with it enough to do this because I considered the possibility that what was going on had something to do with blood sugar. I asked the docs this and they said nothing unusual showed up in my blood... but then again I'd eaten two oranges by the time we got there. I have no history of diabetes but my dad and my mom's dad did.

Then I got up and I nearly lost consciousness, so I decided to alert my sister to watch me and call 911 if I passed out, since I at this point I was kind of worried about what was going on since it had been going on for so long. I realized as I tried to call her name, then, that I couldn't speak clearly and felt like I was under some kind of general anesthetic. I explained to her what was going on and she thought we should go to the hospital. When it continued for another 10 minutes or so and then my hands started to lock up and not move, I decided that was a good idea.

We went to urgent care first, and by this time I was relatively normal, although the way I felt can best be described as moderately intoxicated. We described for them what happened and they said I should go to the ER, so we did.

They ran every damn test I knew of, blood tests, EKG, chest x-ray, CAT scan, the works but didn't find anything unusual. The doc ran through a couple plausible scenarios, but I pretty much fed him the ideas... things like, it's possible I was just way out of shape and not ready for working out again (not likely, I've dealt with the whole "first day working out after several weeks" thing before and it's never caused this, and I know how to hold back when I know I should); also things like that I was just dehydrated (possible, but I hydrate very well during the week, if not as well over the weekends, but the workout I'd gone through wasn't even that intense, I wouldn't have lost much water through sweat); to the possibility that, the recent cold/flu type symptoms I'd been feeling (which have progressively gotten worse tonight to the point of misery right now) could have contributed to exaggerating the effects of what might have otherwise just been a normal "a little light headed/overheated/dehyrated" feeling.

I also put forth the suggestion that maybe the immediate event was some kind of tachycardia but I'm no doctor, I was just guessing because I know that when I've come out of a really hard run and my pulse was about 220-240 (that's only happened once or twice), a sports medicine friend of mine said I was lucky my heart didn't have a problem with that. It's possible that all the wrong conditions came together to create a circumstance where my heart kinda did a double-take and didn't like what I was doing, but I don't know. I didn't think to ask, but I would have thought that something would show up in your blood after a cardiac event like that the way it does after a heart attack.

In any case, my friend convinced me to stop taking xenadrine (just in case) and I've been advised to over-hydrate and not work out for a few days. Just wanted to apologize for 1. not getting the fanfic up tonight I had intended to and 2. I owe Panny an edit on her Malcolm story. Sorry guys, but I'm sure I'll be feeling better tomorrow.

On a positive note, they were remarkably efficient. I was in and out of there in 2 and a half hours or so, with all of those tests and talking to my doctor a few times! :lol:
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Re: I didn't get anything done tonight...

Postby justTripn » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:51 am

:( :shock: :? Distracted?
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Postby WarpGirl » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:42 pm

Elessar! OMG, So many things running through my head right now I can't think straight. OK good news, if it was a stroke or an anurism they would have found it right away. Same thing with a heart attack. Off the top of my head I got nothing. I'm not a doctor either just a professional patient, and you seem to have some experience talking to medical personel yourself. Have you ever had migranes? Very, very rarely some people have them without experiencing the typical splitting pain in their skulls. Did they run any neurological tests? Maybe you need to see a neurologist. I hope you can go see a regular dr. If I remember right you should have medical benifits because of the military right? Anyway TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF! Don't worry about posting our stuff. While it is a lovely luxery YOU ARE MORE IMPORTANT!
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Postby honeybee » Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:52 pm

Don't worry about not getting work on the site, Elessar. Your priority should be taking care of yourself and my thoughts are with you.

I had a spate of fainting spells when I was in my twenties, and I had all the tests and whatnot and they never really found out what caused them. So, I know how scary and frustrating your situation is. Just keep monitoring yourself and making sure the doctors know what is going on.

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Postby panyasan » Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:10 pm

Elessar, the most important thing is that you take care of yourself. This kind of experiences can be very scary - so please take your rest. Hope you recover soon. :hug:
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Postby Distracted » Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:43 pm

Whoa. That sounds scary, Elessar. My first thought with what you described would be that it was low blood sugar + dehydration + side effects of the stimulant you were taking. If that was the case, stopping the Xenadrine is likely to keep it from happening again. The second most likely scenario would be some sort of migraine syndrome, but if you've never had a migraine that would be less likely. Warpgirl is right, though. Rarely it's possible to have neurologic symptoms without headache and have it be migraine related. I would say that if it happens again I'd see a neurologist. I'm glad you're feeling better, though.
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Postby WarpGirl » Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:08 pm

I'm glad I got it right, I saw this message not five minutes after getting out of bed, so I am not at my best at that time. I was afraid I might have gotten mixed up. But hey you've got a lot of girls all bothered about you Elessar. Enjoy it! ;-) :twisted:
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Postby Aikiweezie » Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:10 pm

OH MY! Ditto what everyone else said. Take extra care of yourself - be a good boy and follow up with your doctor.

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Postby Elessar » Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:36 pm

Distracted wrote:Whoa. That sounds scary, Elessar. My first thought with what you described would be that it was low blood sugar + dehydration + side effects of the stimulant you were taking. If that was the case, stopping the Xenadrine is likely to keep it from happening again. The second most likely scenario would be some sort of migraine syndrome, but if you've never had a migraine that would be less likely. Warpgirl is right, though. Rarely it's possible to have neurologic symptoms without headache and have it be migraine related. I would say that if it happens again I'd see a neurologist. I'm glad you're feeling better, though.


Yeah, I mean I would tend to argue and say like "well I've taken this stimulant before when training" but ya know, I'm not stupid, with how severe it was, I know when to just back off and just play it safe :)

The Xenadrine also warns you to drink lots and lots and lots of water, so, and like I said, I may've been behind on my water intake yesterday and just not realized it. I was just eager to get started working out again, so.

I've never had migraines, at least that I know of... I mean I've had headaches plenty of times, but that I can remember it's always been something on the trailing edge of getting sick and I've always been able to take something for it and have it go away... but they did tell me to keep an eye out for any severe headaches.

But thanks, everybody, I appreciate your concern but I'm feeling fine today. Well, I'm feeling fine with respect to what happened. I feel terrible with respect to this stupid cold I'm getting! Ack!
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Postby Escriba » Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:47 pm

Take care of yourself, boss. We kinda care for you :lol:
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Postby WarpGirl » Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:49 pm

Well I'm glad you're feeling better. Not to be too nosey but I'd just watch the next time you might get a headache and maybe keep an eye out for anything that might be a little wonky. Even if it was the stimulant and not enough water, those can sometimes trigger migranes in someone who typically doesn't have them. Also adrenaline masks pain, so add that to a hard workout where endorphins are coursing through the blood stream and you might not have even noticed. Just something to think about. We care about you and that was a scary thing to hear. Because you're a sweet and caring person. We just want you to look out for yourself.

PS You are also very sensible to stop taking that stuff and I admire you. The men in my family would not be so logical. Kudos.
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Postby Elessar » Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:56 pm

Well once it was over I almost didn't go... my sister thought it was a good idea and I was sure I was safe... but I wanted an idea of wtf happened, so... I decided to go. Not eager to get the bill though, I'm not sure how much my insurance will pay of all the big tests I had :-X
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Postby WarpGirl » Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:04 pm

Flowers for your sister MIGHT be a good idea. Seriously though, bills or not you did the right thing. Seemingly weird one-time things can add up into nightmares and even bigger bills. I am a firm believer that 99% of people know their own bodies better tan any doctor in the universe. BUT the problem with people is that in general they don't listen to their bodies and let other concerns, pride, money, ect... Dictate their health care. I'm not saying the arguements aren't without merit. However an ounce of prevention is worth nore than a pound of cure.
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Postby honeybee » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:31 pm

Don't second guess yourself, Elessar. You did the right thing. Often fainting is nothing to worry about and stops on its own, but in rare cases it is a very serious symptom. When I had my fainting issues, my insurance paid right up because of that. Better safe than sorry. I'm glad you are feeling better and hopefully those tests were just precautionary. But you did do the right thing!
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Postby justTripn » Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:41 pm

Actually I got an email once that described the symptoms of a stroke (apparently not what you had since you are fine now), but it was one of those viral emails that said the FIRST thing you do if something neurological is happening is tell someone or call 911 before you become unable to make that judgement or take that action. Similarly with a concussion, one loses their judgement and doesn't know to seek help. My son J. once had a concussion while snowboarding. By is own account he of the accident, he thought he was asleep at home in his bed and he opened up his eyes and was alone on the ski slope with no memory of how he got there. His friends say he did a flip, they tried to wake him up and he was unconscious, so they went to get help. Well Jeremy wakes up, skiis down the slope and rides the lift up and gos down again. By this time he is feeling sick and so he goes into the gift shop where he can't read the words on anything. Still it doesn't occur to him to seek help. This is typical of a neurological condition, so alerting someone and getting to a hospital fast is key. In Jeremy's case, a parent found him wandering around in a daze and asked him what was the matter, then he passed out.

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