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Postby aadarshinah » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:25 pm

I wanted to write a whole story in the Vulcan language. Only problem: nobody can read it.


That and you'd have the same problem you'd have if you tried one of the LotR langages: they only ever developed enough of the language to satisfy the needs of the episode/poem/etc, which works if you want to write about starlight and hills and stuff, but go to use it for anything else and you find you're missing a lot of what makes up the bulk of real languages.

But it was fun... I went to a boarding school for high school and managed to get my own room for the majority of the time, and I remember sitting down one day at my computer with my latin book and going through and being like, "okay, I may only be using this for x, y, and z, but a real language needs verbs for things like this, and nouns like this, and so if I'm going to create this, I need to make it all uniform, so I'll create more than I need," and doing things like creating words for every fruit I could think of when I only needed a word for apple, and creating synoyms/antinyms for words so that they shared roots and showed signs of linkage. I think doing that took up like two months of my junior year. Absolutely insane, but some of the best fun I've ever had.

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Postby crystalswolf » Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:55 pm

panyasan wrote:I think it's very creative when you can develop your own language: grammar, words, structure, but also an entire culture. I never tried it, I stick to "already developed languages". Once I get into a language and getting excited, my brain tunes into that language. I remember writing a Vulcan poem and having so much fun that before I feel asleep the Vulcan words were buzzing in my head. I wanted to write a whole story in the Vulcan language. Only problem: nobody can read it. ;-)
You should. If it's a short story you can write a translation of it. Either way, I'll read it!!

aadarshinah wrote:That and you'd have the same problem you'd have if you tried one of the LotR langages: they only ever developed enough of the language to satisfy the needs of the episode/poem/etc, which works if you want to write about starlight and hills and stuff, but go to use it for anything else and you find you're missing a lot of what makes up the bulk of real languages.
Not necessarily. From what I understand of the Lord of the Rings languages, they were limited because of the cultures he envisioned. Even in Natural languages, you will find limitations according to cultural influences (this is why Tolkien developed the cultures to go with his languages to have to deeper sense of the languages). The more enduring languages are those that can adapt to changes in culture easily.

The VLI seemed to have developed the Vulcan language from a simple naming language to a rich and complex system: http://www.stogeek.com/wiki/Category:Vu ... _Institute

aadarshinah wrote:But it was fun... I went to a boarding school for high school and managed to get my own room for the majority of the time, and I remember sitting down one day at my computer with my latin book and going through and being like, "okay, I may only be using this for x, y, and z, but a real language needs verbs for things like this, and nouns like this, and so if I'm going to create this, I need to make it all uniform, so I'll create more than I need," and doing things like creating words for every fruit I could think of when I only needed a word for apple, and creating synoyms/antinyms for words so that they shared roots and showed signs of linkage. I think doing that took up like two months of my junior year. Absolutely insane, but some of the best fun I've ever had.
Perhaps you'll get a kick out of these links:
http://www.langmaker.com/ml0108.htm (unfortunately it's an abandoned site. It used to be THE source for language creation)
http://www.zompist.com/kit.html (I posted this a while ago, but you may find it interesting)

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Re: New members, introduce yourselves here!

Postby Kevin Thomas Riley » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:37 pm

Hi there, aadarshinah, and welcome to TriSilk! :wave:
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Postby EntAllat » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:59 pm

I hope it's okay to post a couple of newbie type technical-ish question here?

I think I'm finally starting to get the hang of this BBS thing. Even so, I'm still running into a couple of things that have me scratching my head:

  • is there any way to sort all of the boards so that the ones with the most current activity are at the top of the board index?
  • is it possible to do that with topics? (I.e. the newer messages show first rather than last?)
  • is there a way to get notified of new messages?

Also, I somehow manged to set an option somewhere and now I only see the last few days of messages in some topics while I still see stuff from 2006 in others. I have no idea how I did this and although I fear there's probably a big red button staring right at me in the settings that says, "Press Here To Fix It, Batman" I'm equally fearful that it'll say "Ha-Ha" ala Nelson when I do press it and blow something up. :oops:

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Postby justTripn » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:06 pm

Above the "Board Index" blue words in the upper lefthand corner there are two options: "View unanswered posts" and "View active topics"

View active topics will show you the threads sorted by those with the most recent posts.

"View your posts" which is way to the right will show you threads in which you have recently posted.

When you reply in a thread (like I am doing now), there is an option "Notify me when a reply is posted."
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Postby EntAllat » Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:29 am

justTripn wrote:Above the "Board Index" blue words in the upper lefthand corner there are two options: "View unanswered posts" and "View active topics"

View active topics will show you the threads sorted by those with the most recent posts.

"View your posts" which is way to the right will show you threads in which you have recently posted.

When you reply in a thread (like I am doing now), there is an option "Notify me when a reply is posted."


Dangit, I knew they'd be staring me right in the face. THANK YOU!

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Postby aadarshinah » Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:36 am

Perhaps you'll get a kick out of these links:


Thanks for the links. Now if I could only get my UniServer to work correctly....

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Postby Aquarius » Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:59 am

EntAllat wrote:
justTripn wrote:Above the "Board Index" blue words in the upper lefthand corner there are two options: "View unanswered posts" and "View active topics"

View active topics will show you the threads sorted by those with the most recent posts.

"View your posts" which is way to the right will show you threads in which you have recently posted.

When you reply in a thread (like I am doing now), there is an option "Notify me when a reply is posted."


Dangit, I knew they'd be staring me right in the face. THANK YOU!


Also, in your user control panel, you can set things up to always be notified of topic replies, so that way you don't have to remember to check that box every time you reply to a new topic.
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Postby panyasan » Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:55 am

crystalswolf wrote:
panyasan wrote:I think it's very creative when you can develop your own language: grammar, words, structure, but also an entire culture. I never tried it, I stick to "already developed languages". Once I get into a language and getting excited, my brain tunes into that language. I remember writing a Vulcan poem and having so much fun that before I feel asleep the Vulcan words were buzzing in my head. I wanted to write a whole story in the Vulcan language. Only problem: nobody can read it. ;-)
You should. If it's a short story you can write a translation of it. Either way, I'll read it!!
This gave me an idea. Crystalswolf, could I use your Vulcan characters Arrath and A'Vun of your story Besu T'sa-veh for such a story?
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Re: New members, introduce yourselves here!

Postby crystalswolf » Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:04 pm

Absolutely! Go for it! :thumbsup:

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Postby EntAllat » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:53 pm

Aquarius wrote:
EntAllat wrote:
justTripn wrote:Above the "Board Index" blue words in the upper lefthand corner there are two options: "View unanswered posts" and "View active topics"

View active topics will show you the threads sorted by those with the most recent posts.

"View your posts" which is way to the right will show you threads in which you have recently posted.

When you reply in a thread (like I am doing now), there is an option "Notify me when a reply is posted."


Dangit, I knew they'd be staring me right in the face. THANK YOU!


Also, in your user control panel, you can set things up to always be notified of topic replies, so that way you don't have to remember to check that box every time you reply to a new topic.


Thank you! I've got some more setting up to do then. :)

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Postby Aikiweezie » Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:12 am

A belated welcome, aadarshinah !

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Postby Brandyjane » Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:06 pm

Hi! I finally got around to registering here after lurking for quite a while. Actually, I tried to register a few weeks back, but I never could get a confirmation code that I could read. :lol: I was a fan of Ent from the very beginning. I will make the shocking confession that - gasp - I started out as an A/T'P shipper. I know, I know. Fortunately I saw the light. In fact, I was one of the original members of House of Tucker way back in the day. My user name there and on a couple of other boards was Wood Nymph, but I never posted any fiction. However, life got busy, I went back to school, got married, had a child, and along the way I ended up taking a hiatus from anything Trek for several years. I never even saw most of the fourth season of Ent because my UPN affiliate started screwing around with the schedule so badly. This summer I'm re-watching all of it. (Well...I did skip my least favorite episodes, "Terra Nova," "Civilization," and "Precious Cargo," and I'm debating skipping *the_abomination*.) I just finished the Augments arc.

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Welcome, Brandyjane! :wave: Glad you got the registration thing all ironed out. Please make yourself at home!
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